Willtell
6:19 Mon Feb 6
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Can you tell me which podcast that was Miike? The only one I could find that was relevant was where Antonio said he was told by a Man City player that Pep had coached them how to counter our counter attacks that had been effective previously…
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Takashi Miike
1:19 Mon Feb 6
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"not because we’re told to play that way!"
yes, exactly because they're told to play that way. antonio said it last year in the podcast he does with wilson. explained how the football dinosaur approaches every game
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Willtell
1:11 Mon Feb 6
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“ rather than playing as eleven random strangers. this has affected us ever since the jock cunt arrived at the club. no forwards flourish under him because his approach is anti attack.”
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It’s just not true though is it? Arnie and Antonio have done ok.
Yes criticise Moyes for not adequately upgrading them but defending in depth is what all clubs do. The defenders get pushed back because we can’t keep the ball in the opposition half not because we’re told to play that way!
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Lee Trundle
12:53 Mon Feb 6
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The teams with the least amount of possession, are normally the worst teams in the league.
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/ballbesitz/wettbewerb/GB1
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Takashi Miike
12:48 Mon Feb 6
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you're talking absolute gibberish, as per usual. sitting back the way we do only puts more pressure on a defence that isn't the greatest, though I'll admit is better with aguerd. better managers have their defences holding a higher line which then pushes the midfield higher too, stops the attacking players being isolated and gives us more cohesion, rather than playing as eleven random strangers. this has affected us ever since the jock cunt arrived at the club. no forwards flourish under him because his approach is anti attack. the only ones that have done well like arnie and antonio soon get fed up with running around like headless chickens with zero service. i know how spurs play and it's as boring as moyesball, the difference is they have two world class strikers up top
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Willtell
12:37 Mon Feb 6
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I watched Tottenham play a brilliant defensive game against Man City and win. They spent the whole game counter attacking at home with the whole team getting back behind the ball.
I watched a brilliant Arsenal side lose to Everton who also played a brilliant defensive game shutting down every Arsenal attack with all their men getting behind the ball.
There are very few teams that don't defend all over the pitch and put more effort into defending than scoring. Moyes might as well resign now to stop our team getting behind the ball once we've lost it.
The forwards in the PL are too good to not defend in depth and even Man City and Arsenal have more than 7 players behind the ball. You're getting carried away a bit Mike
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Takashi Miike
11:00 Mon Feb 6
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no, no team in the leage sets up as negative or deep/low as us. that he's still doing it after a £200m spend shows how useless he is
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Willtell
10:47 Mon Feb 6
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Every PL team always has at least 7 men behind the ball...
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Takashi Miike
10:37 Mon Feb 6
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you sound like a religious fundamentalist, "I will never watch The Life Of Brian". you're worshipping a bloke who's first thoughts every game is sticking seven men behind the ball until we either go behind, or get to the 80th minute
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Mex Martillo
8:19 Mon Feb 6
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Hear hear
I was a bit taken aback, with the poor display after the world cup, rest and retrain break, but Moyesey is getting there. Why not mid-table and a cup!
Never opened the Moyes out thread and never will.
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RM10
12:27 Mon Feb 6
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Baffled by managers decisions is not new.
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Forest Gate Ugly
10:16 Sun Feb 5
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Not happy with some of his decisions. No room for youth (Ashby) and questionable old school man management (Benrahma) but I am quite persuaded by the idea of teams plateauing or going back a few steps when they are transitioning to a new style of play. Liverpool post Mane, City without Sterling are not the teams they were and seem to need time to reset and refresh. Maybe that really is what’s going on with us too. I hope so and I hope that the recent run of results are signs of a genuine turnaround which will see us move up to mid table and compete in the FA Cup and Conference League. I’m reasonably optimistic this could be the case but I’m still baffled by some of Moyes’s decision making.
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Jaan Kenbrovin
9:55 Sun Feb 5
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We are worse now than when he took over, and it cost the club 200m to do so.
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Percy Dalton
9:53 Sun Feb 5
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You pair of cunts should start your own thread.
Hang on you already have.
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Leonard Hatred
8:34 Sun Feb 5
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This time last year Arsenal fans were calling for Arteta to be sacked.
This short term, knee-jerk bollocks is indicative of modern football fans.
Lyall and Greenwood had worse spells than Moyes.
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Leonard Hatred
8:22 Sun Feb 5
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We're not in a relegation battle.
It's the first week of February.
We'll finish mid table.
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Come On You Irons
8:10 Sun Feb 5
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Yedh, fair enough. Moyes is clearly a decent and solid Premier League manager. The point is the boring, safety first, ultra cautious tactics get a bit tedious when they land you in a relegation battle.
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Willtell
8:08 Sun Feb 5
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Most posters wanting Moyes gone have got the basics right. He is not the future of WH.
He’s small time. He either dithers over signings or signs on reputation rather than how they will fit the team shape. There’s much else to see that he’s not our future.
He’ll get another PL job but not a top club. His one shot at the top got him sacked as a ditherer.
For our board to deliver a top manager means keeping Sullivan out of it
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Leonard Hatred
8:03 Sun Feb 5
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Sunderland would've been doomed whoever was in charge
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Leonard Hatred
8:01 Sun Feb 5
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COYI
That's a ridiculous point.
His first season at Everton was over TWENTY YEARS AGO FFS.
He got them into the Champions League.
Sunderland was a basket case of a club for years.
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